Debra Winger

Cronenberg, Winger, Waters at the Provincetown Film Festival (via capecodonline)

Directors David Cronenberg and John Waters incite in me the excitement often reserved for teenage girls at the premiere of The Fault in Our Stars. The pair are the definition of sophisticated no bullshit, two men very much in touch with their obsessions and capable of drawing an audience along. Over the course of their wide-ranging discussion on the Provincetown Town Hall stage, their dialog trended toward Cronenberg’s adaptation of William S. Burroughs novel Naked Lunch.

When I’m asked about successful literary adaptations, Cronenberg’s 1991 hallucinogenic fantasy starring Peter Weller and Judy Davis is high on the list. Here’s a bit of the conversation between icons Cronenberg and Waters:

JOHN WATERS: Remember when we got to say, how did they ever make a movie out of Lolita? Well, I think with Naked Lunch you did a wonderful job, so how was Burroughs with you?

DAVID CRONENBERG:Burroughs was great. His public persona was very intimidating, and he was very sort of plastic and cynical, and kind of mean. But on personal time, he was really quite sweet, and very generous. He loved the concept. He loved the script that I had written. I did submit it to him but said, really, I don’t think I can make this movie just from your book. I don’t know if you’ve read the Naked Lunch, but it’s a difficult one to think of as a movie.

I said, I feel I need to incorporate a lot of stuff from your actual life…I understand if you don’t want me to, and in particular, I was talking to the fact that he shot his wife, which was a crucial moment, of course, in his life, but also as a writer. He said, I don’t separate my life and my art, and you can just go ahead….

JW: Did you do drugs with him?

DC: No. Actually, at that time I think he was just doing methadone.

JW: Oh, methadone. Got it. I smoked pot with him. Did you go to the bunker, or –

JC:: I didn’t, but I did go to Tangier with him.

JW:: Oh, wow.

DC: And met Paul Bowles, whom he hadn’t seen for seventeen years. I sat right down with the two of them, the authors of Naked Lunch and The Sheltering Sky, so there is a connection. [He looks out into the audience and sees Debra Winger, who starred in Bernardo Bertolucci’s film adaptation of Bowles’ classic novel set in North Africa.] Bizarre, but it is there.

Debra Winger

Debra Winger has trouble playing herself in the role of star. She tries. She tries to tell the truth but the impression I got as she sat on the stage yesterday afternoon at Town Hall in Provincetown beside B. Ruby Rich is that for her the truth is like an Impressionist painting — chips of color that change qualities in different lights.

Winger, on stage, is trying not quite desperately to be real, to please the festival audience that sees her as icon (“Urban Cowboy,” “An Officer and a Gentleman,” “Terms of Endearment”) and diva. Where has she been lately — for her the question is almost irrelevant. She’s been inside her skin, raising three boys, married to Arliss Howard (also in attendance wearing a peculiar kelly green bandana pirate-style on his bald head).

Overlaying the Provincetown Film Festival event — a career achievement award that the actress makes a point of saying is not a lifetime achievement award, she’s still a work in progress — is the question are there roles for women (implied of a certain age)? Winger jokes, rephrasing the question: “are there roles for women with rolls?”

Is it something in the air, as two major movies coming down the pike, Julianne Moore as a neurotic Hollywood diva in David Cronenberg’s “Maps to the Stars” and Juliette Binoche in Olivier Assayas’ “Clouds of Sils Maria,” both Cannes hits. It’s enough to make one ask: where is the “All About Eve” remake?

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