I am a sucker for fiction where generational and family differences come to the fore over a few short days (blister and burst?). Think “Rachel Getting Married.” Or my novel “Playdate.” Danish director Susanne Bier cast Pierce Brosnan and my beloved Paprika Steen (the Danish Sharon Stone) along with Trine Dyrholm (she’s also in “A Royal Affair,” at TIFF and I’m seeing it this Thursday) in this story that climaxes when a young Danish couple marry in Italy. I have been trying to put up trailers by more women directors but I’ve run into a snag. Some wannasee movies don’t have trailers to post yet. The snag with “Love is All you Need” is that the movie is largely in English with some Danish, yet the trailer has a lot of Danish. But the images tell the story. I’m looking forward to meeting Bier in Toronto.
Julie Delpy spends ‘2 Days in New York’…
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Thelma Adams: How are you like Marion — and how do you differ?
Julie Delpy: My screen character is a bit more out of control than me. I’m more grounded and less crazy. I have my neuroses, but she’s more confused, and more self-centered. I’m a very pragmatic person basically. It’s fun to have this kind of alter ego. I did that a bit when I wrote “Before Sunset,” a different part of me that isn’t just like me. I’m fascinated by crazy people because I’m so not crazy: I know what’s reality, what’s me, and what’s not me.
TA: How much of this movie was improvised?
JD: The film is actually very scripted. All my films are. Sometimes, I let people, like Adam Goldberg in “Two Days in Paris,” improvise, like when he ordered that burger. Or when Chris is doing this conversation with a cardboard cutout of Obama — it’s 80 percent written, and 20 percent improvised. But the best acting is when you feel like people are not acting.
TA: When the acting is transparent, and the writing seems natural?
JD: Yes. I just presented a film “Le Skylab,” that film could not be more scripted. It’s an affectation to seem like you just turn on the camera. I love feeling that if people watch my movie, they have the feeling that they are part of the scene, to give people the sense that they actually spent one hour and a half with these people. My goal is to make it feel like people are improvising and not acting. I love to feel like it’s hyper real, like the camera just turned on.
TA: What directors influenced your style?
JD: Robert Altman had this naturalistic thing, and John Cassavetes, and Woody Allen in a more comedic way like “Husbands and Wives.”
TA: Don’t you find Allen misogynistic?
JD: I think Allen is more Pygmalion-obsessed than misogynistic. His body of work is just amazing. If I could get to a tenth of his career! When I think of people like Altman, there is a certain freedom to his movies. He was underrated at his time. His films are so naturalistic. People love to give prizes where you see the acting, the directing, the makeup — what movies are really about, for me, is capturing moments as well as entertainment.
TA: You capture quite a few moments that are relatively rare. Like the opening scene when your character Marion is doing Kegel exercises for incontinence while talking a mile a minute to her newsroom coworker Mingus, played by Chris Rock. Marion has a baby at home, and she talks about squeezing and pumping, and Mingus is both charmed and, OK, a little grossed out. It’s so TMI.
JD: It’s a women’s point-of-view. It’s funny to include it in the film. The kind of intimacy, friendship to a guy, who she would date later, unaware, she’s not premeditating the move to date. She’s not trying to seduce the guy. She’s not a nasty bimbo that wants to get laid. She’s literally sharing the stress of not knowing with a friend, who ends up in a relationship with her, which is endearing for both of them. Neither is superficial. It’s a small moment to set up what kind of a relationship they have. Those characters don’t meet cute; they meet down and dirty. It’s not the obvious thing.
TA: I’ve known women like Marion. After being pregnant twice while working in a newsroom, I may even have been a woman like Marion in more ways than most. But it’s rare to see her on the screen.
JD: I hate the idea of objectifying the woman. She’s not flirting with Mingus with miniskirts. Do you want to be playing sexy bimbo at 40 when you meet someone? The truth is, down the road they’re going to know who you are. You can’t hide. You don’t want to be a bimbo all your life. The reality is that people are imperfect. First, I’m not attracted to beauty or cuteness in men. In the long run for men, it’s not their thing either. I have so many men who’ve dated really beautiful women. It lasts two months. For me, beautiful men, it lasts two weeks. It actually becomes annoying after a while. If they’re good people, then you love them; if they’re bad people, it doesn’t matter if they’re beautiful.
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TA: In this movie, Chris Rock comes across as beautiful from the inside out — not the first thing we’d normally say about Rock.
JD: He’s real. He has a lot of funny moments but it’s not boom boom boom ta da.
TA: There’s no obvious laugh track.
JD: Which I would hate. He wanted to do the part because it wasn’t written like a typical comedy gag. When I started writing the screenplay, he was the first person that came to mind. I blindly called his agent and said, “I did this film ‘Two Days in Paris.’ Does Chris know my work?” And then he said “yes.”
TA: I think it’s Rock’s best scripted work.
JD: I love the look on Chris’s face at moments with my dad…
TA: …played by your real dad, the actor Albert Delpy…
JD: …Yes, where Chris has no clue about my dad, and it’s beyond acting. He doesn’t know what my father will do, and he’s totally in the moment, where my dad’s talking about me being like Peter Fonda in “Easy Rider,” the confusion, the look on Chris’s face in that moment! Obviously some is very acted and very well done and some is an angst beyond the acting…
TA: Like the scene in which Marion’s sister is alone in the apartment with Mingus, and she’s walking around naked, and they’ve only met in the last hour.
JD: Yes. Mingus is terrified: What the hell is she doing naked in my apartment? I’m alone with a naked woman. There’s this uncomfortable moment. What if Marion comes in, and her sister’s naked, and he’s thinking of the consequences. It’s beyond his understanding.
TA: Like Woody Allen, with gentiles and Jews, men and women, you’re playing with our expectations of black and whites, male and female, American and French…
JD: Mingus stumbles into this French family…
TA: Really, they invade the loft he shares with Marion…
JD: …And Americans think that the French are classy.
TA: You mean they’re not?
JD: I showed this film at this festival, and Americans got shocked by the French family. This is the real France. Twenty percent voted for the right, fascist, racist, and anti-Semitic. What do they think the French are — “La Vie en Rose”? That they’re all singing Edith Piaf on the streets of Paris? Edith was a prostitute when she started out. It’s a total myth. France can be really rough.
TA: And yet the father, who tries to smuggle sausages into the U.S. as a gift and arrives smelling of meat, is hugely endearing.
JD: The father is kind of friendly. My father is very free-spirited, more of a 1968, sexual revolution type. Actually my dad’s generation is much freer than the current generation.
TA: What’s it like working with your father — and being the director in charge?
JD: It was a lot of fun because I know what he’s capable of. Also I have to push him. It’s not easy as a daughter to push my dad. Sometimes he rebels. He would also doubt me. When I looked at the rushes with the editor, we laughed at the moments between me and my dad arguing after the take when the cameras were still rolling. I’d say: “Dad, you want to kill me? Is that it?” Ninety percent of the time it worked; 10 percent WTF — What am I doing directing my dad who’s driving me crazy? He’s my dad, and he would say, “I worked with great directors that didn’t bug me as much as you do.” I’d say, “OK, fine, call them. Go work with them.” Overall, we had a wonderful time.
TA: What’s next?
JD: “Le Skylab” is coming out in Europe. It’s about the real French people, but Americans want the French with baguettes and berets.
TA: So it’s not opening in America?
JD: It’s coming out all over the world everywhere. The film is too true to France for Americans to accept what France really is. The way French people handle sexuality is too controversial for American audiences. Children play doctor. I stopped walking around topless with my three-year-old, Leo, because his eyes light up. He does a double take, and he’s super excited to see my breasts. The minute there’s a pretty girl, Leo gets super-excited.
TA: I don’t think I’ve seen a movie like that yet in the United States — that’s a bigger taboo than showing a woman doing her Kegel exercises while talking to a male coworker. Americans have a puritanical streak — and, as a group, we’re unsettled by the potential of sexual predators and inappropriate behavior.
JD: Obviously there are huge problems, and you need to address pedophilia, but when kids are interested in sex between each other, when it’s innocent and no one’s getting hurt, that’s healthy. I feel like it’s very normal. The only danger is when adults involved. As a kid, I grew up playing doctor with all my cousins. It was never weird. Nowadays people can click on something on the net and be exposed on the net pornography and that’s more dangerous. Sexuality is only bad because society has said it is bad. That’s why we’re here because it’s not that bad. There’s the whole animal kingdom, so how bad can it be?
Thelma Adams on Reel Women: What Does Cannes Have Against Women?
I love contenders like David Cronenberg, whose Cosmopolis — starring Robert Pattinson — has been welcomed into the competition, and who headed the Cannes jury in 1999. I was a champion of his cerebral period drama A Dangerous Method, which had a terrific star turn by Keira Knightley. But, really, not a single film by a woman? I’m just gobsmacked.
It is, however, a good year to be a North American male: In addition to Cronenberg, Lee Daniels (The Paperboy), Jeff Nichols (Mud), and Wes Anderson (Moonrise Kingdom) will premiere at what is considered the most prestigious film festival on the planet. The other 51 percent be damned.
There won’t be any shortage of sexy female actresses in evening gowns to attract paparazzi — so why does the female-director shortage matter? To paraphrase: It’s the sexism, stupid. Despite some recent indications to the contrary, women have yet to gain substantial ground in cinema’s most powerful positions. And beyond its inherent prestige, Cannes is significant because it’s at the forefront of the awards season. Last year, for example, The Artist debuted at Cannes, where Jean Dujardin won best actor honors, and went on to sweep the Oscars.
Half-full thinkers can still hope that there will be a bounty of female-helmed movies at the early fall Toronto-Telluride-Venice nexus. Oscar-winner Kathryn Bigelow has her as-year-unfinished Osama bin Laden film, Zero Dark Thirty (horrible title alert!), slated for the holiday season.
And, in a pleasant surprise, the Tribeca Film Festival, which is currently in full swing, overflows with female-directed films of all stripes. Among the most prominent are Sarah Polley’s quirky dramedy Take This Waltz, featuring Michelle Williams as a straying Toronto wife; Julie Delpy’s shrewd kooky relationship comedy 2 Days in New York, which pairs the actress with Chris Rock; and Lynn Shelton’s sexy sibling rivalry drama with Emily Blunt, Your Sister’s Sister. While not all movies are Oscar-bait, Tribeca presents a bounty of promising women filmmakers, including Tanya Wexler (Hysteria), Malgorzata Szumowska (Elles), Julia Dyer (The Playroom), Sharon Bar-Ziv (Room 514), Lucy Malloy (Una Noche), Kat Cairo (While We Were Here), and Beth Murphy (The List).
It’s unconscionable that the Cannes selection committee, which received in the neighborhood of 1,800 movie submissions, considers this artistic bias a non-issue. It’s up to bold filmmakers who are part of the boys’ club — Cronenberg, Daniels, and Anderson among them — to squawk about the inequity. We love them; now it’s time for them to return the love.
This column first appeared on AMC Filmcritic.com, and was edited by Nina Hammerling Smith
Thelma Adams on Reel Women: my first filmcritic.com column
I launched my new column on AMC filmcritic.com with a post about why we need more women film directors, as if my readers had any doubt. But, then, it’s time to stop preaching only to the choir:
Following a summer where Bridesmaids and The Help book-ended the mainstream box office, Hollywood execs and mainstream critics have to wake up and smell the nonfat latte: Women’s movies are here to stay.
One would think those awful-yet-profitable Sex and the City movies should have already made this point, not to mention the movies of Sandra Bullock, Angelina Jolie and Emma Watson, to name a few. Still, with Bridesmaids having made $268 million worldwide without bankable stars, what’s the takeaway? Click on that link to read the entire column.
WAMC Roundtable: Joe Donahue and me on the Woodstock Film Festival
Last Friday, in anticipation of the Woodstock Film Festival and our eighth annual Amazing Women in Film Panel, I headed up to Albany and chatted with Roundtable host — and film-lover — Joe Donahue. These are our stories. Click to listen to the podcast.
